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A sea change in Australian medical education

We interviewed the Deans of our medical schools, who told us "Deans live in interesting times"

Kerrie A Lawson, Ruth M Armstrong and Martin B Van Der Weyden

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MJA 1998; 169: 653-658

Introduction - Graduate entry - New selection criteria - Curriculum changes - Clinical exposure and information technology - Medicine and our changing society - Where should medical education be going? - Conclusion - Authors' details
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Introduction On the brink of the new millennium, we are beset by change -- social, technological, scientific, economic; the list continues. These changes have affected all areas of life, including medicine, and the medical schools have had to respond. The past year has also seen new Deans at eight of Australia's 10 medical schools. We spoke to these eight Deans and to their two longer-serving colleagues to find what has been happening in medical education, and their visions for the future.


Graduate entry Perhaps the most dramatic change in the last few years has been the adoption of graduate-entry medical programs at Flinders University and at the Universities of Queensland and Sydney. At Flinders, where "mature" entry has always been encouraged and has led to a lower student drop-out rate, it was "part of the natural evolution of the medical course", explained Lindon Wing.

Peter Brooks (Queensland) said that "delaying the decision to do a course that prepares you for a lifetime career can be justified. Such a decision is extremely hard when you are 17 or 18, with no experience of the world or life in general. The graduate students are more mature, very good at questioning and very good at working in groups -- dealing with group dynamics and setting priorities." Stephen Leeder (Sydney) lauded the greater diversity among graduate-entry students: "Our students have done a wide variety of things. A tutorial group I took this year included a trained physiotherapist, a person completing a PhD in biochemistry, one with a PhD in molecular biology, another with a nursing background and an American student who had studied liberal arts and anthropology."

University of Melbourne

Medical school established: 1862
Course: Entry from school, 6 years; plus (from 2000) graduate entry, 4.5 years
1998 intake: 170 Australian, 70 overseas fee-paying (mostly from South East Asia)
Outstanding graduates: Frank Macfarlane Burnet (Nobel laureate), Edward "Weary" Dunlop (war services)

Richard Larkins

Position: Dean, Faculty of Medicine, Dentistry and Health Sciences
Graduated: Melbourne medical school (1966)
This time last year: James Stewart Professor of Medicine, University of Melbourne
Books and discs for a desert island: Cairo Trilogy by Naguib Mahfouz; Beethoven's Eroica symphony; Smetana's Má Vlast
Book with most impact in past year: Nelson Mandela: a biography by Martin Meredith

The University of Melbourne will move to graduate entry for a third of its intake from the year 2000. Richard Larkins explains: "This is because of the very strong arguments in favour of both undergraduate and graduate entry. Students who've done extremely well at high school and know exactly what they want to do should not have to study things they're not really interested in for three years, and then do a four-year concentrated course in medicine with little chance for lateral extension during that time . . . but there are also lots of students who miss the opportunity to go straight into medical school through educational disadvantage, or because they they are "late developers" or decide only later to go into medicine. They also deserve a realistic opportunity of getting into medicine. Mixing the two groups of students from different backgrounds will provide mutual support and benefit." The dual program will also allow the school to compare the two types of students -- evidence-based education!

The issue of graduate entry is on the agenda at two other medical schools -- Monash and New South Wales. Nick Saunders (Monash) was Dean at Flinders during the move to graduate entry. He recently circulated a discussion paper on graduate entry which will be debated at Monash at the end of this year. Bruce Dowton (New South Wales) said that his school "is just about to launch into significant reformulation of the medical course." Although this will almost assuredly involve changed selection criteria, he believes that "the question of graduate or school-leaver entry is not important at the outset. I am encouraging the faculty to begin by defining the sort of medical graduate they wish to produce before debating what sort of program will best produce that graduate".

University of Sydney

Medical school established: 1883
Course: Graduate entry, 4 years
1998 intake: 137 Australian, 13 overseas fee-paying (mostly from North America)
Outstanding graduates: Gus Nossal (former director of the Walter and Eliza Hall Institute of Medical Research), Paul Torzillo (Aboriginal health)

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Stephen Leeder

Position: Dean, Faculty of Medicine
Graduated: Sydney medical school (1966)
This time last year: Pro-Dean of Faculty of Medicine, University of Sydney
Books and discs for a desert island: The god of small things by Arundhati Roy; Killer plants by Gordon Cheers and Julie Silk; Wallace and Gromit fun pack; Triple J - hottest 100 (volume 5)
Books with most impact in past year: Fugitive Pieces by Ann Michael; Lovesick by Angeles Mastretta

Photo of Stephen Leeder
The other four medical schools have considered graduate entry, but plan no immediate changes. Derek Frewin (Adelaide), Chair of the Committee of Deans of Australian Medical Schools, explained that "Adelaide would first need evidence that the product of graduate-entry programs is at least as good or better than that of school-leaver programs." Furthermore, a disadvantage of graduate entry is that "with time added for the first degree, graduate-entry programs take at least a year longer. There is concern that this longer duration may influence the decision to pursue lengthy specialist training and particularly disadvantage women. According to Allan Carmichael (Tasmania) "one of our briefs is to provide for the medical workforce needs of the State, and graduate entry would disadvantage Tasmanians". Further, "the small size of our school would make reorientation to graduate entry more difficult".

On a national scale, a consequence of graduate entry in some medical schools has been migration of students to the school-leaver programs in Western Australia and Tasmania. According to Lou Landau (Western Australia) the number of interstate students at his medical school has increased over the last five years to 10%, and includes particularly Queenslanders, who now have no school-leaver program in their home State. Robert Sanson-Fisher (Newcastle) felt no pressing need for all medical schools to adopt the same entry policy, saying that "variation is needed between medical schools. There should be choice for applicants -- the consumers -- about what or how they want to specialise. And we want different sorts of people produced or encouraged in different sorts of medical schools."

University of Adelaide

Medical school established: 1885
Course: Entry from school, 6 years
1998 intake: 90 Australian, 35 overseas fee-paying (mostly from Malaysia)
Outstanding graduates: Howard Florey (Nobel laureate), Aubrey Lewis (first Professor of Psychiatry at London Institute of Psychiatry), Hugh Cairns (first Nuffield Professor of Surgery at Oxford)

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Derek Frewin

Position: Dean, Faculty of Medicine, and Head, Division of Health Sciences
Graduated: University of Colombo medical school (1965)
This time last year: Same position (appointed Dean in 1991)
Books and discs for a desert island: books by Robin Cook and Jeffrey Archer; middle-of-the-road music - Celine Dion, Cliff Richard, Harry Belafonte

Photo of Derek Frewin

New selection criteria Whereas once all medical schools relied on the Tertiary Entrance Rank (TER) or equivalent, now only the University of NSW retains this as the sole criterion for entry, but even there it is under review. Changes to selection procedures were pioneered at Newcastle in the 1970s. Sanson-Fisher explained that "the TER is a necessary but not sufficient criterion for entry. If you believe both technical competence and the 'care dimension' are important, then you should select for both -- ability to acquire and regurgitate information in set formats, but also ability to work and talk with people." This philosophy led Newcastle and, more recently both Adelaide and Western Australia, to use a broad-based hurdle -- TER of 90 or above -- followed by psychosocial assessments -- the Undergraduate Medicine and Health Sciences Admission Test (UMAT; a psychological test that includes problem-solving, creative thought and ethical reasoning), followed by a structured interview.

According to Frewin, "the effect in Adelaide has been to almost double the number of feeder high schools (from about 20 to 35) and to more than quadruple the number of country students (from 5% to 22% in 1998). Students are also more socially interactive and more collegial in approach." Melbourne and Tasmania are also in the process of introducing UMAT to complement the TER-equivalent for school-leaver entrants.

In contrast, current selection criteria at Monash are TER (97.5 or above), appropriate prerequisite subjects (eg, chemistry) and a structured interview. However, these are under review. Similarly, the University of NSW, according to Dowton, will almost assuredly change its selection criteria during any potential restructuring of its course.

University of Queensland

Medical school established: 1936
Course: Graduate entry, 4 years
1998 intake: 228 Australian, 1 overseas fee-paying
Outstanding graduates: Reginald Withers (Professor of Radiotherapy, UCLA, US); Ralph Doherty (Emeritus Professor of Social and Preventive Medicine and Emeritus Pro-Vice Chancellor, University of Queensland)

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Peter Brooks

Position: Executive Dean, Faculty of Health Sciences
Graduated: Monash medical school (1967)
This time last year: Professor of Medicine, and Head of the Medical Professorial Unit, University of New South Wales at St Vincent's Hospital
Books and discs for a desert island: The awakening by Bruce Chatwin; Bach cantatas; Handel's Water Music
Book with most impact in past year: The unconscious civilisation by John Ralston Saul

Photo of Peter Brooks
The change to graduate entry has also involved new selection criteria. All four graduate schools (three current and one planned -- in Melbourne) use the same criteria: academic performance in any undergraduate degree; score on the Graduate Australian Medical Schools Admission Test (GAMSAT); and a structured interview with a selection panel which may include community representatives. GAMSAT, in contrast to UMAT, is a test of knowledge, communication and intellectual skills gained through prior experience and learning which specifically assesses reasoning in humanities and social sciences and in biological and physical sciences, as well as written communication.

Most Deans recognise the need for positive discrimination for rural and disadvantaged students and many schools have targeted-access schemes. Newcastle was the pioneer in targeted access for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people and has produced 11 of the 26 indigenous medical graduates nationwide between 1989 and 1995. Although most other schools have put effort into providing access and support for indigenous students, many have had difficulty attracting applicants -- Newcastle seems to have "cornered the market" (Wing).

Most schools also have targeted-access schemes for rural students, partly in the hope of increasing the number of rural pracitioners. In support, Larkins reported that "a 15-year survey of Melbourne graduates found that 40% of those from a rural background were practising in rural areas, compared with only 10% of those from a non-rural background." Furthermore, Landau asserted that providing opportunities to rural people is important in itself: "You won't get people living in the country if they don't believe their children have the same opportunities as urban students."


Curriculum changes All the medical schools are undergoing major curriculum changes. "Curricula need to be dynamic and to adjust and adapt to the circumstances," said Frewin. All the Deans spoke of vertical and horizontal integration of curriculum content, problem-based, self-directed and computer-assisted learning, and early clinical exposure. Newcastle was first to espouse these principles when it was given a mandate by the Karmel Committee to bring a fresh approach to medical education.

With the move to graduate entry, Flinders, Sydney and Queensland medical schools have also adopted curricula based on the above principles. At Sydney and Queensland, this was a major change from the traditional curriculum -- basic sciences taught in individual disciplines in the early years, followed by clinical exposure. Flinders had always had a systems-based curriculum, but has now moved to problem-based learning. The curriculum, similar at the three schools, was explained by Leeder: "We've organised students' learning not according to disciplines but according to four themes -- basic and clinical science, community and doctor, patient and doctor, and personal and professional development. We also introduce students into the clinical context from Week 1, and students work in groups on clinical problems."

University of Western Australia

Medical school established: 1956
Course: Entry from school, 6 years
1998 intake: 125 Australian, 11 overseas fee-paying (mostly from South East Asia)
Outstanding graduates: Barry Marshall (co-discoverer, with Robin Warren, of Helicobacter pylori), Fiona Stanley (child health)

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Louis Landau

Position: Executive Dean, Faculty of Medicine and Dentistry
Graduated: Melbourne medical school (1965)
This time last year: Same position (appointed 1996)
Books and discs for a desert island: Complete works of Shakespeare; A dictionary of modern thought; Mozart's Marriage of Figaro; The glory of Gershwin (with Larry Adler)
Book with most impact in past year: The Reader by Bernard Schlink

Photo of Louis Landau

According to Larkins, Melbourne medical school will also have a "totally new curriculum" from 1999. It will be organised similarly to the curricula of other graduate-entry schools, but "a unique feature for school-leavers is an intercalated year of advanced medical studies with a significant research component. This may be chosen from about 30 different areas, ranging from Aboriginal health, rural health, health in their own country (for international students) and medical history through to bench-based medical research."

Western Australia, Adelaide and Tasmania are also breaking down the discipline barriers and adopting problem-based learning. This was seen by several Deans as a key to active learning. Frewin said: "We are moving away from 'teaching' to 'active learning', because it enhances retention and allows students to see the material in the context of its applications, leading to lifelong learning."

Both Monash and NSW are actively exploring the need for curriculum change. Saunders felt that "given the changes over the last two years with provider number legislation and the increasing length of postgraduate training, Monash may be best to stay with high school entry, to reduce the course to five years, and to find an innovative and creative way of allowing graduates to do a four-year course within the same curriculum envelope". This will be debated within the faculty.

Monash University

Medical school established: 1959
Course: Entry from school, 6 years
1998 intake: 145 Australian, 7 overseas fee-paying (mostly from South East Asia)
Outstanding graduates: Michael Wooldridge (Federal Minister for Health), John Murtagh (Professor of General Practice), Tan Sri Dato Dr Abu Bakar Suleiman (Malaysian Director General of Health)

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Nicholas Saunders

Position: Dean, Faculty of Medicine
Graduated: Sydney medical school (1970)
This time last year: Dean, School of Medicine, and Head, Faculty of Health Sciences, Flinders University
Books and discs for a desert island: Border trilogy by Cormac McCarthy; a book by John Grisham; Mozart's serenades; Toni Childs
Book with most impact in past year: Memoirs of a geisha by Arthur Golden

Photo of Nicholas Saunders
Landau and Carmichael want to offer students more options. According to Landau, these may be in medical subjects not well covered in traditional medical courses (eg, psychology, sociology), but may also be from outside the medical school (eg, music or a foreign language). Carmichael explained: "Our students are mainly school leavers who have studied a fairly narrow range of prerequisites, and we wish to broaden their horizons." NSW may take this even further; part of Dowton's vision for the school is to enhance the flexibility of its programs. "There are opportunities for medical graduates in more diverse areas than traditional clinical medicine -- law, advocacy, ethics, business, economics and so on. I would like to see our students able to take subjects from other schools and faculties -- Arts, Engineering, the Graduate School of Management," he said.

Several of the Deans spoke of multidisciplinary education. According to Brooks, "Queensland is looking at ways of having medical students train with students in other health sciences -- pharmacy, rehabilitation sciences and dentistry." Sanson-Fisher says the Faculty of Medicine and Health Sciences at Newcastle is also moving in this direction. "There are core competencies needed by all clinical healthcare providers -- communication skills, ability to critically interpret literature, ethical issues, some basic science. Next year, we will be introducing the idea that our students learn these with other professional groups, not just in a big lecture theatre, but actually working together. That's really important, because if you don't train them together how can you expect them to work together when they graduate?"


Clinical exposure and information technology Not only does clinical exposure now come earlier in most medical courses, it is moving out of the teaching hospitals into smaller hospitals, general practice and the community. According to Brooks, "The major quaternary referral teaching hospitals are inappropriate for young students. A third- or fourth-year medical student in the undergraduate course should not be interviewing someone who is waiting for a double lung or heart transplant."

Many Deans talked of the need to recruit general practitioners (GPs) as teachers and highlighted the difficulty of recompensing them appropriately; teaching reduces the number of patients GPs can see and consequently their incomes. Saunders said: "The easy things are to give GPs a proper clinical title and some tangible benefits -- links with the university community, access to the library, and information technology -- but the difficulty is to get real dollars out there . . . The Australian public hospital system -- mainly the teaching hospital system -- is subsidising medical education to the tune of at least $50 million per year."

University of New South Wales

Medical school established: 1960
Course: Entry from school, 6 years
1998 intake: 160 Australian, 30 overseas fee-paying (mostly from South East Asia and Norway)
Outstanding graduates: Robert Lusby (youngest appointee to Chair of Surgery in Australia), Bob Graham (Director, Victor Chang Cardiac Research Institute)

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Bruce Dowton

Position: Dean, Faculty of Medicine
Graduated: Sydney medical school (1980)
This time last year: Associate Vice-Chancellor and Associate Dean for Medical Education, Washington University, St Louis, US
Discs for a desert island: Verdi's Gianni Schicci; Mozart's Coś fan tutte
Books with most impact in past year: A time to keep silence by Patrick Leigh Fermor; The measure of our success by Marian Wright Edelman

Photo of Bruce Dowton
The move out of major teaching hospitals has been facilitated by advances in information technology, enabling both supervision and delivery of the curriculum. For example, Landau explained that "the academic GP who looks after the general practice elective programs is in regular electronic contact with the supervising GP and the student, which ensures she can get involved if the experience is not optimal."

This ease of communication has also allowed for lengthy rural placements. For example, at Flinders all students go to the country for a week in Year 2, two weeks in Year 3 and six weeks in Year 4, while a cohort of students spends all of Year 3 in a rural environment in the Riverland. Students at Queensland can opt to spend Years 3 and 4 at the northern clinical school in Cairns, Townsville and Mt Isa. "All clinical problems are available on the Intranet and next year we are planning to provide any campus-based tuition to these sites through telemedicine-telehealth links," said Brooks. According to Carmichael, rural rotations are also particularly important in Tasmania, the most rural State: "A lot of educational support is provided via the Internet during these rotations. Students either provide their own laptop computer or can borrow one from the school."


Medicine and our changing society Until very recently, doctors were the custodians of information that was not readily available to the general community. Now, with medical information easily accessed on the Internet and popularised in the media, our community is becoming more sophisticated about healthcare. In addition, there seems to be a growing anti-science sentiment and interest in alternative medicine. We asked the Deans how they are preparing their graduates for these changes in society and in the doctor-patient relationship.

Most agreed with Larkins that "one of the challenges for our graduates will be to steer patients through the morass of information on the World Wide Web and allow them to discriminate between scientifically based and non-scientifically based information." Many Deans emphasised the need for medical students to learn how to access and critically appraise information and the value of the new curricula and methods of teaching in meeting this need. According to Wing, the paradigm shift in the doctor-patient relationship is "one of the main reasons Flinders has gone to problem-based learning. The students are not just presented with information as though it is the universe of information, they're presented with a problem and have to go and seek the information. We are trying to encourage them to learn how to access and appraise information and fit it into their everyday use, skills that will underpin their continuing education."

University of Tasmania

Medical school established: 1963
Course: Entry from school, 6 years
1998 intake: 50 Australian, 5 overseas fee-paying (mostly from Malaysia)
Outstanding graduates: Peter Stanton (first Tasmanian graduate appointed professor in the Tasmanian medical school), Tim Flanagan (rural GP and Censor-in-Chief of the RACGP)

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Allan Carmichael

Position: Dean, Faculty of Health Science
Graduated: Monash medical school (1970)
This time last year: acting in same position, and Director of Women's and Children's Services, Royal Hobart Hospital
Books and discs for a desert island: The Bible; Lord of the rings by J R R Tolkien; Bach's Brandenburg concertos and Mass in B minor
Book with most impact in past year: The Bible

Photo of Allan Carmichael
Another factor important in preparing graduates for the changes in their role is, according to Leeder, "adequate real contact with patients." Many agreed that this contact should be in general practitioners' surgeries and in the community -- patient questioning of doctors "is not the sort of behaviour you see in horizontal patients in teaching hospitals", said Saunders. "Students need role models who can say 'I don't know, but I know how to go and find out and let's do that together' . . . we have to work on staff development in this area," he added.

Larkins added that "it is important for graduates to have an understanding of alternative/complementary medicine -- Melbourne students are exposed to a variety of different beliefs about health in their study of the social aspects of medicine. Graduates also need the skills to listen to the views of their patients, to communicate their own views and to help patients use all their sources of information to come to a sensible decision about their health. A doctor can no longer make a statement about what's best for the patient and expect it to go unchallenged."

Landau agreed, but felt that, despite the necessary emphasis on evidence-based medicine, "the community still wants an individual to talk to and discuss the options . . . The increasing need for evidence-based criteria has removed a lot of the magic from medicine, but people still want some of that magic. We have to combine the magic with the evidence-based information, so that we can give both."

University of Newcastle

Medical school established: 1973
Course: Entry from school, 5 years
1998 intake: 68 Australian, 20 overseas fee-paying (mostly from Norway)
Outstanding graduates: Sandra Eades (first Aboriginal graduate; now researcher at the WA Institute of Child Health), Ian Kerridge (medical ethicist)

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Robert Sanson-Fisher

Position: Dean, Faculty of Medicine and Health Sciences
Graduated: B Psych Hons (1967), PhD (1978), University of Western Australia
This time last year: Director, National Institute of Cancer Control
Books and discs for a desert island: Lord of the rings by J R R Tolkien; the poetry of John Donne; Luka Bloom; Verdi's Tosca
Book with most impact in past year: The fatal shore by Robert Hughes

Photo of Robert Sanson-Fisher


Where should medical education be going? We asked the Deans for their wishlists if funding were unlimited. Educational issues figured highly in their answers. Sanson-Fisher saw "a need for more evidence-based educational knowledge. We need to know in a cleaner, clearer and more precise way what works and what doesn't, and we need mechanisms for monitoring student and staff perceptions of the faculty, educational issues and curriculum modules. We also need much more multidisciplinary education and greater flexibility in our educational system." Saunders said he "would experiment in self-directed learning and flexible delivery, turning the teaching programs into learning programs, which is expensive because you need physical facilities, multimedia development and good training for your staff." In contrast, Dowton would like "to maximise the contact between the faculty and individual students or small groups in a physical environment conducive to rich, deep learning, not superficial learning. This would involve a lot of individual tutorials and informal networking between faculty and students."

General practice teaching and training was a priority for Brooks: "I'd make sure we have a very active postgraduate medical school that runs training programs in the first three years of hospital training. These could be linked into the college programs. We would work with the colleges to see how the universities could add value to their programs."

Boosting research was also often mentioned. For example, Saunders would "invest in 'blue sky' strategic, applied research and encourage cross-disciplinary research. The really interesting research into delivery of medicine and the practical nature of medical care is at the intersection of disciplines; it needs to bring in economics, sociology and epidemiology. At the moment it is enormously difficult to get funds for this sort of research because it looks too foreign, too risky." Similarly, Dowton felt that "Australian universities have begun to lose the edge in medical research, and that's the part of medicine that society still needs from medical schools and research institutes. While we are no longer the archives of information -- that's out in the public domain, as it should be -- we should be the engines of producing new knowledge, not just in biological sciences but in sociopolitics, ecology, sociology of medicine and so on." Dowton also identified a need for research into "information management or informatics -- the whole area of how to harness knowledge to improve healthcare. We have amassed the so-called evidence about how to treat diseases, but we can't get it into practice because we have paid too little attention to how human beings use information and knowledge to alter behaviour. We're just starting to scratch that surface in Australia."

Flinders University of South Australia

Medical school established: 1974
Course: Graduate entry, 4 years
1998 intake: 58 Australian, 25 overseas fee-paying (mostly US nationals or graduates from the US college system)
Outstanding graduates: Steve Wesselingh (new Professor of Microbiology at the Alfred Hospital, Victoria), Chris Baggoley ("first" graduate of Flinders medical school; President of Australasian College for Emergency Medicine), Brendan Nelson (Federal MP and former President Federal AMA)

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Lindon Wing

Position: Dean, School of Medicine
Graduated: Sydney medical school (1967)
This time last year: Professor of Clinical Pharmacology, Flinders University, and Director of Clinical Pharmacology, Flinders Medical Centre
Books and discs for a desert island: Complete works of Shakespeare; Chopin's and Beethoven's piano sonatas
Books with most impact in past year: The god of small things by Arundhati Roy; Fugitive pieces by Anne Michaels, Captain Corelli's mandolin by Louis de Bernières

Photo of Lindon Wing
Investment in information technology (IT) was another high priority to facilitate decentralisation of teaching. Larkins saw a need for "proper academic teaching and research departments at dispersed sites, properly linked by IT to the central site. With the ultraspecialisation of central teaching hospitals and the shorter bedstays in those hospitals, a huge challenge is the disjunction between where we have our clinical academic departments and where we need to teach. We need to develop significant academic departments at decentralised sites, with research concentrating on clinical and population health and with really effective IT communication." Frewin mentioned the importance of "a state-of-the-art network and intranet facility to deliver the curriculum and for use in hospitals." In Tasmania, Carmichael would also like to "upgrade our information technology network, with access to the Internet, videoconferencing facilities and links to the State Telehealth network at all our teaching sites, which are widely dispersed around the State."

Almost all Deans felt staff were a priority, with several mentioning the need for more staff development, appropriate remuneration for academics (academic salaries may be considerably lower than salaries in teaching hospitals), rewards for teaching merit and "a good holiday because it's very hard at the moment" (Saunders). For Landau, staff were the highest priority: "I would get more good people and pay them better to teach. Technology is good and we can use it, but individuals are still the most important resource. I would try to provide the best teachers, clinicians and scientists to be role models for students. You need a mixture of people in your faculty -- those good at teaching, the charismatic, the good researchers and the good clinicians."

The special difficulties of the smaller, newer medical schools were apparent. Wing told us that "One of the problems about being a new school at a young university is that we don't have good endowment money, so we don't have any reserve pots to dip into. I would love a development pot so that we can actually kick off our own initiatives and not chase every government grant." Carmichael would like to "better equip his staff, including the clinical teachers, in the new educational methods -- problem-based and self-directed learning -- and developing new curricula, and give them more time for research."


Conclusion Twenty-five years ago, there were the traditional medical schools and then there were Newcastle and Flinders. Now the medical schools are enormously diverse, in their entrants, length and structure of curricula and the range of opportunities for clinical exposure. Programs have changed to meet the evolving needs of society and, if the Deans of today have their way, many more changes are to come.


Authors' details Medical Journal of Australia, Sydney, NSW.
Kerrie A Lawson, PhD, Copy Editor;
Ruth M Armstrong, BMed, Editorial Registrar;
Martin B Van Der Weyden, MD, FRACP, Editor.

No reprints will be available from the authors.
Correspondence: Dr K A Lawson, Medical Journal of Australia, Private Bag 901, North Sydney, 2059.

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